BharatPremi
12-13 10:11 PM
anyone can start a thread, if you need help doing it, you may wish to ask politely and someone will tell you.
why so? ask yourself. read your own comments. and let us all know how you have helped the process of ending YOUR retrogression.
i have reviewed every post you ever put on iv. i don't see any deleted post.
so you may want to think again. hardly anything is deleted around here. otherwise a lot of intemperate stuff that's posted would disappear.
ultimately it comes to this: if 25,000 members show no interest in contributing in a fund drive (barring the minuscule 500 who did), what's the point in being "friendly". hey- iv is you and me. there is nothing else. no building, assets, stocks. I or aman or pappu or logiclife and every other core member and iv leader are just like you. we have jobs and families to take care of. we are afflicted by immigration retrogression- like you.
we have put in time, money and effort at great cost to our personal lives. i wish i could "like you" to that one too.
if "members" are willing to make this their organization their own- if there is to be this sense of involvement and ownership, then we will succeed. if not, if the attitude for the most is going to be "why should i" and "nope i am not contributing" and "how dare you ask" and "i have free speech" and "why doesn't iv do xyz for me" and "why should logiclife use this and that tenor" and "why did abc say def to me" and "i demand respect" and the best "these are my 2c but don't ask me to lift a finger to do this- iv should do this" then forget it. won't happen. because that IV you are imagining doing wonders and making miracles is YOU.
let me take this opportunity to thank everyone that participated in the fund drive, joined state chapters, met lawmakers, took initiatives to start state groups, ran the funding threads and contributed in any other way.
you are guys are true assets to iv- in fact you are the true iv. kudos to you!
Paskal,
First time I am seeing you angry.:)
why so? ask yourself. read your own comments. and let us all know how you have helped the process of ending YOUR retrogression.
i have reviewed every post you ever put on iv. i don't see any deleted post.
so you may want to think again. hardly anything is deleted around here. otherwise a lot of intemperate stuff that's posted would disappear.
ultimately it comes to this: if 25,000 members show no interest in contributing in a fund drive (barring the minuscule 500 who did), what's the point in being "friendly". hey- iv is you and me. there is nothing else. no building, assets, stocks. I or aman or pappu or logiclife and every other core member and iv leader are just like you. we have jobs and families to take care of. we are afflicted by immigration retrogression- like you.
we have put in time, money and effort at great cost to our personal lives. i wish i could "like you" to that one too.
if "members" are willing to make this their organization their own- if there is to be this sense of involvement and ownership, then we will succeed. if not, if the attitude for the most is going to be "why should i" and "nope i am not contributing" and "how dare you ask" and "i have free speech" and "why doesn't iv do xyz for me" and "why should logiclife use this and that tenor" and "why did abc say def to me" and "i demand respect" and the best "these are my 2c but don't ask me to lift a finger to do this- iv should do this" then forget it. won't happen. because that IV you are imagining doing wonders and making miracles is YOU.
let me take this opportunity to thank everyone that participated in the fund drive, joined state chapters, met lawmakers, took initiatives to start state groups, ran the funding threads and contributed in any other way.
you are guys are true assets to iv- in fact you are the true iv. kudos to you!
Paskal,
First time I am seeing you angry.:)
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nb_des
08-01 04:32 PM
Can anyone provide some useful insight based on personal experienceas to how valuable is Part Time MBA for oppurtunities in India?
I am IT professional with lot of experience and currently pursuing Part time MBA from a business school which is ranked in top 25 and not in top 10.
The way I see it that it will take me around 4 years to complete it and I have to invest atleast $30,000 even if I get employer to pay a part of it.
In the end if it fetches me a top notch management position it will be well worth it. However I see limited chances of getting into management positions in US just based on MBA degree however I am not sure about India.
Any thoughts?
I am IT professional with lot of experience and currently pursuing Part time MBA from a business school which is ranked in top 25 and not in top 10.
The way I see it that it will take me around 4 years to complete it and I have to invest atleast $30,000 even if I get employer to pay a part of it.
In the end if it fetches me a top notch management position it will be well worth it. However I see limited chances of getting into management positions in US just based on MBA degree however I am not sure about India.
Any thoughts?
abandookwala63
05-01 10:09 PM
No LUDs on my and my wife's 485 yet. We filed in July 2007 and processing center is at TSC
I got a soft LUD on my I 129 on 4/26/09. Last LUD was on my renewal in 2007. What does it mean ?
I got a soft LUD on my I 129 on 4/26/09. Last LUD was on my renewal in 2007. What does it mean ?
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nashim
08-11 12:41 PM
done,
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smisachu
07-30 12:01 AM
Dont even think about it unless you are a quant and have resources that can compete with the Hedge funds. Commodities do not behave like stocks, you need to be able to model prices using multi variate models. Then there is jumps. You should be familiar with jump diffusion/step functions etc. To be able to model these you will need to use a factor model like the Pilipovic model. Even then it will only be an approximation.
Commodities are purchased as futures. Futures are derivatives and you will need to hedge them. A perfect hedge for a future is 1:1 in the spot. Since there is no arb here you will have to use options. To model the price of an option you will have to be a master of Black-Scholes option pricing model or a similar method like monte carlo simulation. Even if you figure all this out you will have to delta hedge. Delta hedging commodity options is very expensive, you will bleed money. Look up Hodges-Nuberger model for delta hedging options on derivatives.
I suggest a book by Daragana Pilipovic called "Energy Risk", buy it and read it. After that if you still feel you can take on hundreds of computers running parallel with teams of quants modelling prices and programs trading algarithimic models; then Good luck!!
Trade stocks as modelling stocks is comparitively easy. Stocks have drift (mu). If you are saturated with stocks look into options and Fixed income. Leave all these complicated stuff to the pros. You have better chance of hitting a jackpot in a casino than making money in trading commodities.
Hello IVians,
As we all await our GCs, I thot we can explore some investment vehicles.
Does anyone here have experience with commodity trading?
Can we trade in commodities on H1 or L1 status?
Is it too risky like forex trading?
Who are the online brokers offer commodity trading?
Is there a minimum account balance / trade required every month or so?
Pls share your experience. Thanks!
Commodities are purchased as futures. Futures are derivatives and you will need to hedge them. A perfect hedge for a future is 1:1 in the spot. Since there is no arb here you will have to use options. To model the price of an option you will have to be a master of Black-Scholes option pricing model or a similar method like monte carlo simulation. Even if you figure all this out you will have to delta hedge. Delta hedging commodity options is very expensive, you will bleed money. Look up Hodges-Nuberger model for delta hedging options on derivatives.
I suggest a book by Daragana Pilipovic called "Energy Risk", buy it and read it. After that if you still feel you can take on hundreds of computers running parallel with teams of quants modelling prices and programs trading algarithimic models; then Good luck!!
Trade stocks as modelling stocks is comparitively easy. Stocks have drift (mu). If you are saturated with stocks look into options and Fixed income. Leave all these complicated stuff to the pros. You have better chance of hitting a jackpot in a casino than making money in trading commodities.
Hello IVians,
As we all await our GCs, I thot we can explore some investment vehicles.
Does anyone here have experience with commodity trading?
Can we trade in commodities on H1 or L1 status?
Is it too risky like forex trading?
Who are the online brokers offer commodity trading?
Is there a minimum account balance / trade required every month or so?
Pls share your experience. Thanks!
geesee
09-18 01:27 PM
Thanks kubmilegaGC!
I will call the senators immigration liaison tomorrow. Hopefully she will not tell me that they cannot do anything besides what they have done because that is what they told me in September last year when I got a standard response last year.
Unfortunately nobody understands the pain and agony we are going through. For them, its just another day at the office, they couldnt care less. Nevertheless, I am going to try tomorrow.....hey, cant give up that easy.
I will call CS again tomorrow, I dont mind being yelled at and I am gonna tell her this time that I have not opened a SR. Atleast, she will then transfer my call to a IO.
Let's see what tomorrow has in store for me!!
Request the CSR to transfer the call to an IO.. thats what I did today... IO seemed knowledgeable than all CSRs I talked to...
Opened SR for my wife.. it seems opening SR for wife's case did a trick to few cases...
Keeping fingers crossed.....
I will call the senators immigration liaison tomorrow. Hopefully she will not tell me that they cannot do anything besides what they have done because that is what they told me in September last year when I got a standard response last year.
Unfortunately nobody understands the pain and agony we are going through. For them, its just another day at the office, they couldnt care less. Nevertheless, I am going to try tomorrow.....hey, cant give up that easy.
I will call CS again tomorrow, I dont mind being yelled at and I am gonna tell her this time that I have not opened a SR. Atleast, she will then transfer my call to a IO.
Let's see what tomorrow has in store for me!!
Request the CSR to transfer the call to an IO.. thats what I did today... IO seemed knowledgeable than all CSRs I talked to...
Opened SR for my wife.. it seems opening SR for wife's case did a trick to few cases...
Keeping fingers crossed.....
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DareYouFireMe
01-29 06:01 PM
By the way, How long it takes to get EB2 labor these days?
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jthomas
05-08 10:29 PM
Congrats desi3933.
Start applying for a job. A better keyword would be "US citizen + <your field of interest>.
Find a job for Citizen only and enjoy life.
Start applying for a job. A better keyword would be "US citizen + <your field of interest>.
Find a job for Citizen only and enjoy life.
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gc_chahiye
11-02 01:05 PM
The GC system is entirely in our favor. It really does not benefit America in any significant way.
nope, if the alternative to the GC system is outsourcing (as you yourself mentioned) all the profits go to big corporations and our salaries are spent in India. The corporations are notorious for avoiding taxes so teh government gets nothing. By making us stay here longer (on H1 or GC) we end up spending our salaries here, paying taxes, paying social security, paying medicare.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
nope, if the alternative to the GC system is outsourcing (as you yourself mentioned) all the profits go to big corporations and our salaries are spent in India. The corporations are notorious for avoiding taxes so teh government gets nothing. By making us stay here longer (on H1 or GC) we end up spending our salaries here, paying taxes, paying social security, paying medicare.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
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09-17 11:28 AM
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Bradman
10-19 02:58 PM
Write to Mr. Bush (no kidding). They will send an inquiry to FBI and you will get something from FBI NNCP (name check division). If that does not help, file a lawsuit against USCIS/FBI. Or you can file a lawsuit first and then write a letter to save some time. The lawsuit will get things moving. The do-it-yourself guide is located here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FBI_name_check
I just wrote to the President & White House today. Let me see what they have to offer on this...
Appreciate your advise !!!
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FBI_name_check
I just wrote to the President & White House today. Let me see what they have to offer on this...
Appreciate your advise !!!
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JazzByTheBay
12-13 04:16 PM
25K "members", 30K goal, 24 (excuse my French.. ) freakin' days... and once the momentum from this round of lobbying dies down, we're back to square one, with the begging bowl.
jazz
Jazz,
As far as the fund drive is concerned I disagree that without the VB we would have not reached our goal We over 22.5K in 6 days. The VB provided a push but I am sure we could have collected the remaining 7.5K in 24 days.
jazz
Jazz,
As far as the fund drive is concerned I disagree that without the VB we would have not reached our goal We over 22.5K in 6 days. The VB provided a push but I am sure we could have collected the remaining 7.5K in 24 days.
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nc14
05-20 03:09 PM
FinalGC,
You have summed it up correctly. Comprehensive insurance from a reputed US company/broker like AIG (not TATA-AIG) is the way to go. I had the same for my parents. Luckily, there was no need for us to use it but I know friends who have used it and were not left in soup (it worked as well as it was supposed to work).
Recently, one of my friend's dad came to Texas and got sick and the bill came to $60K. Unfortunatley, he did not buy travelers insurance and is fighting an uphill battle with the hospital.
My parents are coming next month, so I did a detailed research on all the insurance firms, both in India and in USA and I found that most of the ICICI or Tata-AIG plans have limited coverage, which limits the number of days in an ICU or visits by doctors etc.. Even if the plan has a $100K max, the plan may only cover upto $1000 per day for 30 days or so and then there is limitation for ICU and other surgeries. However, if you take a comprehensive coverage, then whatever the expenses, or wherever the charges are incurred, it does not matter. The total amount upto $100K will be covered and it does not limit ICU charges or room charges or doctor visits etc.
The only reason we need an insurance for parents is to cover emergencies, rather than regular doctor visits. Generally, any emergency run 60-70K, so I would recommend a minimum of $100K and do a comprehensive coverage. I have worked with IMG or check this guy at http://www.visitorshealthinsurance.com/
I even called IMG to ensure that this guy is an authorized re-seller/broker for the insurance.
Additionally, I did not find any insurance that covers pre-existing conditions. So just pray that they are healthy during their stay in US.
Yes, it is little expensive, but better peace of mind with comprehensive. If you do a local US insurance, then it is easy to get the insurance paper work done, when needed, rather than doing an Indian based insurance, which may need additional paper work and money transfer may get delayed.
You have summed it up correctly. Comprehensive insurance from a reputed US company/broker like AIG (not TATA-AIG) is the way to go. I had the same for my parents. Luckily, there was no need for us to use it but I know friends who have used it and were not left in soup (it worked as well as it was supposed to work).
Recently, one of my friend's dad came to Texas and got sick and the bill came to $60K. Unfortunatley, he did not buy travelers insurance and is fighting an uphill battle with the hospital.
My parents are coming next month, so I did a detailed research on all the insurance firms, both in India and in USA and I found that most of the ICICI or Tata-AIG plans have limited coverage, which limits the number of days in an ICU or visits by doctors etc.. Even if the plan has a $100K max, the plan may only cover upto $1000 per day for 30 days or so and then there is limitation for ICU and other surgeries. However, if you take a comprehensive coverage, then whatever the expenses, or wherever the charges are incurred, it does not matter. The total amount upto $100K will be covered and it does not limit ICU charges or room charges or doctor visits etc.
The only reason we need an insurance for parents is to cover emergencies, rather than regular doctor visits. Generally, any emergency run 60-70K, so I would recommend a minimum of $100K and do a comprehensive coverage. I have worked with IMG or check this guy at http://www.visitorshealthinsurance.com/
I even called IMG to ensure that this guy is an authorized re-seller/broker for the insurance.
Additionally, I did not find any insurance that covers pre-existing conditions. So just pray that they are healthy during their stay in US.
Yes, it is little expensive, but better peace of mind with comprehensive. If you do a local US insurance, then it is easy to get the insurance paper work done, when needed, rather than doing an Indian based insurance, which may need additional paper work and money transfer may get delayed.
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sanjaymm
12-24 11:21 AM
Freedom and Liberty has been the founding principle of USA. Freedom to change, to improve and to grow has lured immigrants to USA over ages. However, same freedom is denied to LEGAL employment based immigrants. USA boasts of equal rights and opportunity to everyone. However equality is denied to employment based immigrants.
I came to USA in 2001 along with my family, to work as an IT manager. My green card was applied in 2003. I have been dutifully contributing to US economy, in form of my labor and taxes. However, due to immigration laws, I am stuck to a particular job profile. I can not accept any promotions or job enlargement offers. I am even barred from attending full time school, to enhance my skills. My dependents are not eligible to any educational aids, since we are not green card holders yet. I can not buy a house for the fear of losing it. In case of job loss, I have to seek a job in same job profile within 2 months, or loose whatever I have worked hard for in prime years of my life. In spite of paying all taxes, I am not eligible for any kind of unemployment benefits.
I have been waiting patiently for last five year for my green card. Looking at the snail pace of process it will be several decades before, I get it. Has US stopped caring about intellects at all? Why can�t US politicians see a potential brain drain coming?
I request you to take reforming immigration process, making USCIS accountable on top priority. The law should also have a maximum wait period for green card identified. No one should be put through an ordeal of an endless wait.
I came to USA in 2001 along with my family, to work as an IT manager. My green card was applied in 2003. I have been dutifully contributing to US economy, in form of my labor and taxes. However, due to immigration laws, I am stuck to a particular job profile. I can not accept any promotions or job enlargement offers. I am even barred from attending full time school, to enhance my skills. My dependents are not eligible to any educational aids, since we are not green card holders yet. I can not buy a house for the fear of losing it. In case of job loss, I have to seek a job in same job profile within 2 months, or loose whatever I have worked hard for in prime years of my life. In spite of paying all taxes, I am not eligible for any kind of unemployment benefits.
I have been waiting patiently for last five year for my green card. Looking at the snail pace of process it will be several decades before, I get it. Has US stopped caring about intellects at all? Why can�t US politicians see a potential brain drain coming?
I request you to take reforming immigration process, making USCIS accountable on top priority. The law should also have a maximum wait period for green card identified. No one should be put through an ordeal of an endless wait.
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satyasaich
12-07 04:00 PM
Hope the Change will come for us as well
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bugsbunny
04-17 12:04 AM
Hey,
I have Bachelor's computer's 3 years and MCA 2 years from IGNOU. I have over 7 years of Exp excluding frm my current company. Is EB2 possible in my case. My employer says its not cause of my education, can anybody let me know if they have done EB2 with this scenario. Appreciate your time. Thanks
you have the education and experience to qualify but as others have mentioned your job should also require a EB2 level of skill...then you can apply in EB2
I have Bachelor's computer's 3 years and MCA 2 years from IGNOU. I have over 7 years of Exp excluding frm my current company. Is EB2 possible in my case. My employer says its not cause of my education, can anybody let me know if they have done EB2 with this scenario. Appreciate your time. Thanks
you have the education and experience to qualify but as others have mentioned your job should also require a EB2 level of skill...then you can apply in EB2
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Vexir
05-31 02:18 AM
Working on mine :)
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axp817
03-31 11:49 AM
It is hard to believe that someone can suddenly change policy internally and not talk about it. In my case the officer id who issued denial is different from the officer id who issued NOID.
UNITEDNATIONS - for some reason, I think you are trying to spread unnecessary fear with your conspiracy theories. Agreed that USCIS is going tough on consulting companies and that stuff, but "internal policy change" seems to be more of a conspiracy.
UN probably didn't realize that the officer id. was different. The id. being different is a good thing, it makes the likelihood of the IO not having noticed the old NOID higher.
I am sure you are under a lot of stress, and I feel your pain, but click on UN's profile and look at his old posts carefully, he knows what he is talking about.
Again, hope things work out in your favor, keep us posted.
UNITEDNATIONS - for some reason, I think you are trying to spread unnecessary fear with your conspiracy theories. Agreed that USCIS is going tough on consulting companies and that stuff, but "internal policy change" seems to be more of a conspiracy.
UN probably didn't realize that the officer id. was different. The id. being different is a good thing, it makes the likelihood of the IO not having noticed the old NOID higher.
I am sure you are under a lot of stress, and I feel your pain, but click on UN's profile and look at his old posts carefully, he knows what he is talking about.
Again, hope things work out in your favor, keep us posted.
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485Mbe4001
06-12 03:45 PM
EB3 I is bad and will get worse. EB 3 ROW will also get screwed big time because of the 300k namecheck victims who are now eligible for visas. Trickle down will also be impacted because of that. USCIS uses short sighted methods to clear their hurdles, they dont realize that there is person behind each visa number. The only thing certain for EB 3 is that in OCT EB 3 will revert back to the June 08 dates.
The sad fact is that most of us were screwed because the lawyers suggested to our companies that EB3 is easier to process than EB2.
The sad fact is that most of us were screwed because the lawyers suggested to our companies that EB3 is easier to process than EB2.
willwin
06-13 09:17 AM
you are asking for EB2 guys in 2004,2005,2006,2007 to wait for EB-3 guys in 2001,2002,2003,2004. Point is well taken. Its a humane way of handling things.
Perhaps they should not make EB1 current, let them wait a year or two while 2004 EB2 and 2001 EB3 get their green cards.
Ask this question to yourself. If you were an EB2 person with 2004 priority with a spouse and kid, Would you be willing to wait few more years to get your green cards so that a 2001 EB-3 shall get his faster and may not care /appreciate your sacrifice?
Your position helps yourself and nobody else. I dont have any problems 2001 EB3s getting approved before 2004 EB2's. Thats the way it should be, but not at the expense of EB2's. Feeling of entitlement is not adequate justification. USCIS has established a way to convert to EB2 status, if you have sufficient experience. You can certainly try that option.
I just spoke my mind, dont care if i get red dots or not. Apperantly people here are way too sensitive to an opposite point of view.
Texanguy,
I am in EB3 (I) with a PD of 2005.
I agree that EB3 or for that matter any category should not benefit at the cost of another. But, when it comes to spill over, I personally feel that the numbers should be equally distributed among all retrogrossed countries and categories.
If there are 20,000 numbers that DOS thinks will not be used in the current FY; then let it distribute equally to all categories. Say if EB2 and EB3 (I) or China gets 5000 each, then obviosuly, because of a shorter queue EB2 dates would move forward beyond EB3 does. I think this is fair.
Whether a humane approach or a logic approach, it does not make sense for a EB3 (or any category) to wait for 7 years!!!
BTW, I turned you green. Be happy :-)
Perhaps they should not make EB1 current, let them wait a year or two while 2004 EB2 and 2001 EB3 get their green cards.
Ask this question to yourself. If you were an EB2 person with 2004 priority with a spouse and kid, Would you be willing to wait few more years to get your green cards so that a 2001 EB-3 shall get his faster and may not care /appreciate your sacrifice?
Your position helps yourself and nobody else. I dont have any problems 2001 EB3s getting approved before 2004 EB2's. Thats the way it should be, but not at the expense of EB2's. Feeling of entitlement is not adequate justification. USCIS has established a way to convert to EB2 status, if you have sufficient experience. You can certainly try that option.
I just spoke my mind, dont care if i get red dots or not. Apperantly people here are way too sensitive to an opposite point of view.
Texanguy,
I am in EB3 (I) with a PD of 2005.
I agree that EB3 or for that matter any category should not benefit at the cost of another. But, when it comes to spill over, I personally feel that the numbers should be equally distributed among all retrogrossed countries and categories.
If there are 20,000 numbers that DOS thinks will not be used in the current FY; then let it distribute equally to all categories. Say if EB2 and EB3 (I) or China gets 5000 each, then obviosuly, because of a shorter queue EB2 dates would move forward beyond EB3 does. I think this is fair.
Whether a humane approach or a logic approach, it does not make sense for a EB3 (or any category) to wait for 7 years!!!
BTW, I turned you green. Be happy :-)
JazzByTheBay
07-17 10:08 PM
Let's pick up where we left off before this July 2 visa bulletin debacle (and the resulting struggle). Though the whole fiasco did get us our first taste of success, imho, and as such isn't insignificant by any measure.
Jazz
we seized on an opportunity and won a battle.
the war is still to be one.
there is no way this over. we will fight till retrogression ends.
Jazz
we seized on an opportunity and won a battle.
the war is still to be one.
there is no way this over. we will fight till retrogression ends.