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  • mallu
    02-15 06:49 PM
    I don't know what % of that group consists of H4 spouse of H1 folks. But i believe a good percentage of those applied through the TOEFL,GRE route.

    And usually that happens to be 'low tier' universities in USA.
    No offense to San Jose State University in silicon valley, where you can see H4 ladies flock to classes.





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  • grupak
    02-13 01:34 PM
    Finally you hit the nail on its head. That’s why the per country limit is there so no one country with larger population can monopolize any agenda the way you are trying to do with IV.

    I don't understand this logic. We are talking about employment based GC.

    Lets be clear that we are talking about people who are employed in the US and their employers have sponsored their green cards (except the EB2-NIW, EB1_EA). These people are employed because of their skill at jobs not their national origin.

    Are you suggesting that somehow people of some countries have monopolized the foreign worker pool by born in the same country and NOT because of their skill.

    Since we are talking about a privilege and benefit that comes from being employed in the US, you are actually suggesting that US employers should consider country of birth and not just skill in the employment.

    Tell me how did the Chinese, Indian, Mexican and Filipino workers unfairly monopolized the foreign worker pool. As far as I am aware, these countries have large populations and a lot of Science and Engineering graduates happen to be from these countries.

    The country cap makes sense in family based immigration system when extended beyond the immediate family members. IV is not for FB GC issues.

    Again, employment in the US is based on skill not country of birth. The foreign workers are here because they are needed, and US will benefit by keeping these skilled workers long term. What IV is doing benefits all employment based GC.





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  • supers789
    07-18 04:14 PM
    I have i140 approved from previous employer with PD Nov 2005 (which became current with Aug bulletin). New employer has not yet started GC and my 6 years of H1B are getting over in next 6 months.

    Can I get 1 year h1B extension based on the fact that I have i140 approved. Please note that its approved with old employer and I cannot file 485 with him.

    Thanks!





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  • OLDMONK
    07-24 04:29 PM
    Its not the question of economy alone. When deciding to go back. Its a question about convenience.

    a) I don't want to stand in line to pay my Electric/Telephone/House Tax/Income Tax/Train Ticket/Air Ticket/Bus Ticket/Children Admission-donations/Petrol Line/LP Gas Line/Restaurant Line/Chola Bhatura Line/Samosa Line/RTO Office line/Registration line/License Line/Stock Buy line/Stock Sell Line/Bank Deposit Line/Bank Draft Line/Fixed Deposit Line/Kisaan Vikas Patra Line/Registered/Speed post Line/Blue Dart Line/Company registration line/College admission line/College fee line/University degree line/Interview Line/Booking a Car line/Beer Whisky Line/Canteen Line.

    Half the country stands in line, the other half manages the line. Neither has any civic sense.

    b) I don't want to bribe babus who manage above lines to get ahead in line.

    d) I don't want power failures/cooler failures/ac failures/broken roads/or other catastrophic system failures.

    e) I dont want fake or mixed eating oil / flour / milk / cheese / butter / peppers / lentils / rice

    f) I don't want dangerous chemical fertilizers in my produce (slow killers - massive kidney failure rate in India for past 10 years)

    g) I don't want to teach my children dishonesty and tricks of survival/street smartness (in ref to corruption in India) which don't add any value to their personality.

    h) The only reason I would wanna go back is for my immediate family and friends. Thats the only thing I miss when it comes to India.

    I wouldn't go back and I believe even MK Gandhi himself would'nt leave from Africa for India in todays times.

    Also Its the enemy within (corruption) which can cause great harm and we have that kind of enemy now. You can never ever change the attitudes which people carry in India without another revolution.

    I am sure I can come up with a huge list of positives too, They will sound very good and will give me a great feeling of fake National Pride.

    Now go ahead and kill me for saying all the above.!!



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  • zCool
    05-09 05:08 PM
    All I can say is.. HUH???

    Now there are plenty of reasons to not go to canada.. but going to India and applying from there is NOT one of them:)

    Do you even know how long the wait is from India for processing time??
    It's 5 years and increasing BY THE DAY!

    for those in US GC and thinking of applying to canadian pr...

    DONT DO IT !!!

    You just end up spending around 3k-6k for you and your dependants, and it will go unused since you are waiting for US GC.

    the best way for canadian shit is to go back to India when you are sure you will not get the US GC. You can then apply for canadian PR from India.

    The canadian government just takes your money and you dont get jobs easily. Most of the jobs are for people with job experience "INSIDE CANADA".

    India is a good place to shit too. Your daily toilet does not HAVE to be in some other country if the restrooms in US are closed forever.





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  • mbawa2574
    02-15 04:55 PM
    Dingudi,
    I didn't generalize. I said preponderence meaning "a lot of" cases with L1/B1/H1 and I am also not denying the fact the India is doing a great job in producing IT skills in great numbers. I am saying how they end up in America in greater numbers than any other country. China, Pakistan, Israel also produces lots of IT gradutes but they don't have the bodyshop connection to land here with an NIIT certificate.

    You just sound idiotic



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-14 04:49 PM
    well, the people who are in eb3 and cannot do anything about it, for reasons that you quoted, i agree, it is a pity. but, you know what, "life is not fair".

    it is a good thing u worry about others, and want to help them. however, when u look at those bills you mentioned and none getting passed. yes, it may look like a waste to do anything. however, we need to keep trying. with the limited resources we have, i think we should focus on "things/bills/issues" the IMPACT most people. doing something only for eb3 or eb2, in my opinion, would be even more difficult, given the progress legal immigration has made in this country. so, may be, u cud help in getting the things done that impact more people.

    and it is ur decision not to go eb2 (even, with the resources you mentioned). have to admit, thats strange. may be u r like me, who is not obsessed with a gc. however, we live in a society, in a system (however flawed it may be), and we all try to live by those rules, try to use opportunities that are available legally and make our lives, a little better.

    i came to this country in 1999, i have a MS, PHD from a reputed Comp Sci program. Many people who (still) dont know much about Computer Sci. came into the dept, got their MS and have been very successful, making tons of money. i am a guy whose bs, ms and phd is in Comp Sci. i think u will find may 2 or 3 guz out of may 10, who have a degree in CS, particularly in the undergrad. i used to be very mad at all the electrical, mechanical etc guz getting software jobs. i used to hate almost all software professionals coz i thought i had to work very had for my ranks, on my gpa and on my degrees and see there are people who are making as much as i do, with none of that. slowly, but surely, i have come to terms that "life is not fair" and then, what if fellow human beings can get good jobs, whats wrong with that?? is how i started to see it, (as long as they are good enough).

    what i am trying to say is please think in a global scale and help solve issues which can impact the MOST number of people and not just a minority. coz, the exceptions u stated, will be there for any issue.

    Jai Hind
    well, the people who are in eb3 and cannot do anything about it, for reasons that you quoted, i agree, it is a pity. but, you know what, "life is not fair".
    Yes life is not fair but when we get a chance to be fair we (And that includes me also) let it go by.

    it is a good thing u worry about others, and want to help them. however, when u look at those bills you mentioned and none getting passed. yes, it may look like a waste to do anything. however, we need to keep trying. with the limited resources we have, i think we should focus on "things/bills/issues" the IMPACT most people. doing something only for eb3 or eb2, in my opinion, would be even more difficult, given the progress legal immigration has made in this country. so, may be, u cud help in getting the things done that impact more people.
    What i porposed was doing something in the DV bill for badly retrogressed applicants (There wil be no reference to EB3 or EB2). Now the fact that this might help EB3 is because EB3 is the most badly retrogressed section.


    and it is ur decision not to go eb2 (even, with the resources you mentioned). have to admit, thats strange. may be u r like me, who is not obsessed with a gc. however, we live in a society, in a system (however flawed it may be), and we all try to live by those rules, try to use opportunities that are available legally and make our lives, a little better.
    You know what i was tempted to do EB2 but my sense of right and wrong prevented me. My mess up the already loaded and unstable system with another app when i already have one. Now for persons who are in EB3 (Please remove me from the equation) are thier not because they wanted to but because of the way thei whole immigration crap has evolved. Sure porting will help me out and i wil not need to justify this to anyone else but i will have to face myself. I know most people do not get it. It is doing right.

    i came to this country in 1999, i have a MS, PHD from a reputed Comp Sci program. Many people who (still) dont know much about Computer Sci. came into the dept, got their MS and have been very successful, making tons of money. i am a guy whose bs, ms and phd is in Comp Sci. i think u will find may 2 or 3 guz out of may 10, who have a degree in CS, particularly in the undergrad. i used to be very mad at all the electrical, mechanical etc guz getting software jobs. i used to hate almost all software professionals coz i thought i had to work very had for my ranks, on my gpa and on my degrees and see there are people who are making as much as i do, with none of that. slowly, but surely, i have come to terms that "life is not fair" and then, what if fellow human beings can get good jobs, whats wrong with that?? is how i started to see it, (as long as they are good enough).
    No comments there i agree with you

    what i am trying to say is please think in a global scale and help solve issues which can impact the MOST number of people and not just a minority. coz, the exceptions u stated, will be there for any issue.
    Global scale. I thought we were on scale of US. Please let me correct you EB3 is not a minority but a Majority in the EB community. just because a situation is not worth helping is not any reason to not step forward. I personally feel that IV can do something which will help EB3 because that i sthe only category which has no help from anyone. As for EB2 i have no grudges against them . You got your GC or will get it soon and all the best of luck to you, but if something can be done for EB3 it should be

    Jai Hind





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  • rahulpaper
    06-28 04:58 PM
    In that AILA reference of EB3 others for june... DOS asked USCIS that visas are exhausted..it wasnt USCIS directly jumping to conclusions.

    my 2 cents..


    Today, he emailed by HR directly and told them that "we will file everyone's 485 in first week of July ".

    He also said that there is no need to panic because AILA is already threatening USCIS with lawsuit and right now its in negotiations state. (Whatever). He said that the thread from AILA will prevent USCIS from doing the same mischief again in July 2007 to EB2, and EB3 categories. (Somehow I dont buy that, I dont think USCIS is afraid of anyone and they are acting like and independent body ... like the Supreme court working on its own schedule and own whims).

    So the thing is...he acknowledges what happened with EB3-other category in June and says that he will file in July first week (good for me and my other co-workers) but he is still sticking to his guns that "It wont happen because USCIS will be scared of AILA".

    What USCIS has done for EB3-other worker category is violation of federal regulation and it cannot just ignore the visa bulletins because it feels like doing so and its having a bad day. But nonetheless, the people who make these decisions dont get sued. The agency gets sued, and those lawsuits are fought by internal lawyers who are on USCIS payroll. They get some heat for violating the federal regulation but its not like they would lose their shirt over it.



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  • cps060
    03-19 05:43 PM
    so you mean to say that if I try to enter in fourth year, then itself I have to go to an immigration hearing and the judge would decide whether he would let me stay or not ?

    Also can I apply for CA SIN staying in USA ?
    Should I be filing taxes there ?
    How do I get an address if I dont stay there ?

    Thanks for your help.





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  • Legal
    07-21 08:13 PM
    The unused Employment Based visas will be added to the following year's Family Based visas.

    CAN ANY ONE BELIEVE THEY GAVE 10,326 "UNUSED" EB NUMBERS TO FAMILY BASED IN THE YEAR 2006?? AMAZING.

    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf

    Another concern I have on your estimation is it looks like unlimited categories (immediate relatives) eat into the overall numbers. But it looks like FB is guaranteed minimum of 226,000 each year.



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  • sidbee
    06-02 03:59 PM
    Its possible we will not win such a lawsuit....I am not a lawyer, and often things which seem discriminatory to the common man, cannot be proved so in the court of law.
    Yet, such a lawsuit could get some publicity and at least highlight the baltantly unfair laws against certain groups people based on country of birth in the EB category.

    It very well depends on the lawyer .

    If he could prove country quota as unconstitutional, which i feel it is.

    But yes IV should talk to a good constitutional lawyer(not immigration), and find the odds,

    And as you said, even if we do not win , we would for sure get some media coverage.





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  • old_hat
    05-03 01:59 AM
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    Its not he....Its you...yes, you are the one comng in three different IDs and supporting yourself.:eek:

    get over delusional thoughts. At my age I am not looking for vindication from any quarters. my opinions are my own and mostly well supported with facts. And yes I am flexible to changing my views based on facts and arguments based on facts.



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  • GCOP
    09-23 01:15 PM
    I agree with this. Please Include Current Homeowners in the proposal, who are already contributing to economy while still waiting for the Greencard. Current Homeowners should not be be left out from the proposal.
    Nixtor,

    I like your idea, but please consider current homeowners as well in your proposal. I understand that if new homeowners are removed from the queue I am standing in, it will benefit me. But seriously, I will not get immediate relief. I will have to continue to wait in some queue for another decade. I have been in the US since 1994, completed 6 years of education and have been employed since 2000. My PD was current for 2 months, I am still sitting here looking at a dismal October Visa Bulletin. Yes, I bought my house 4 years ago. Why can't I be included in this list?

    Should I promise to buy a second home? Will that put me in the category you are proposing?





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  • racoon786
    07-10 11:44 AM
    I am planning on moving to Canada in the next 12 months since I already have PR there. I have no hopes for getting GC any time soon and wouldn't want to be toyed by the USCIS, DOS, Senators and all the anti-immigration lobbies out there.



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  • Widget
    02-18 03:35 PM
    I fully agree with you. the point is that we are not powerful (EB peopel) in order to force the gov to do something about it. The farmers, illegals, helathcare EB peopel are in much better situation than us (regular EB peopel).

    My children are doing very well in schools and they are much better than any average student in the class and I can not take them back to my home country after they have achived good grades. My wife ca not work because she is an H4 holder, I can not take buy a house because I am not sure if I am going to have a job for more than 2 years.

    it is a very difficult situation and I have to think about a back up plan after beeing in this situation since 2003. By the way, I an ROW H1 holder.

    I have and approved I-140 (PD 01/2004) and I can not file for I-485.





    I can only give examples from personal life. My personal examples lead me to believe that a lot of people, though aware of retrogression, are unaware of what it really means.

    Six months ago, I thought that there was nobody opposing EB-based visa numbers. And I was pretty certain that my greencard would be handed to me in a few years.

    Then I learnt about IV. And I learnt about the problems.
    Then I tried to tell my friends about it at work. And the first reactions were 'Is the situation really that bad'?

    So, there is definitely a huge group of people who don't know what retrogression really means, and how screwed they really are.


    But again, these are personal examples. Maybe yours (people knowing about retrogression, and still not bothering about contributing/participating in IV) might have led you to a different conclusion.





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  • invincibleasian
    01-27 09:38 PM
    Go for it! Life itself is not fair!!



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  • go_guy123
    06-12 12:10 AM
    ...were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. ......


    Without any visa capture....EB2/EB3 India will get flushed in this deep recession.





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  • viva
    01-29 02:51 AM
    pappu- i got the message. sorry, if i became overzealous. just wanted to help iv...

    i will not raise any more questions asking non-contributing members to contribute.


    go iv .....go core team!





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  • engineer
    07-04 09:40 AM
    I have sent letter to Congressman Sensenberner (WI) about this issue.





    sundevil
    05-29 02:48 PM
    I agree with your ultimate conclusion that we need legislative changes, but I am with complaining about fraudulent EB1 apps. Every fraud starts off small. Even this applying H1B without a job and then sit on the bench for a few months and find a job was started as a few thousand at one time. Now it is a fraud monster, we have learnt to live with.
    I for one believe changing EB3 to EB2 is not even in the same ballpark as EB1 fraud, most people in EB3 are deserving or will become deserving EB2 while waiting. But EB1 fraud is straight up that, FRAUD, even labor sub takes a distant second to that.

    :) he did say hope is on the way...but forgot to say which way or he was try to say what would hope's tombstone read...

    Here lies HOPE...it was IN the WAY :rolleyes:

    to the others who are bitching and moaning about EB1's, a few months back we were worried about the EB3 converting to EB2..before that we were worried that EB3's were getting more visas than EB2's and so on.....we will keep fighting about the handfull of misallocated visas or work towards recapture. The most important thing from Murthy's letter is that USCIS has started preadjudicating 485 which simply means that there are ton of people stuck in this mess who are waiting to be approved... a handful of visas is nothing...lets all unite and work towards recapture.





    Marphad
    06-08 11:08 AM
    employment based is just one part of the immigration thing. If you think EB immigration is important - there will be thousands of opinions from people who will say why other immigration is also important.

    Actually as per government's official point of view, EB comes on second priority than FB. Family union always comes on first priority.



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