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  • BharatPremi
    10-23 03:48 PM
    To avoid the struggle for standing in a "Ration Card" Queue we opted USA and now we find ourselves in GC queue. Queue is our fate..:)





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  • sachuin23
    04-21 01:20 PM
    if its a 10 year visa...i doubt there should be a concern about visa renewal.
    Hopefully in 10 years you have GC and USC :)
    But to answer your question...as long as you are not overstaying the 6 months there should be no legal issues. Ofcourse there is no such guarantee as it is upto the visa issuing officer's discretion

    Thanks ! Thats what I thought , but wanted to confirm with senior members.





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  • Marphad
    03-18 04:25 PM
    I hope the admins keep this thread open and not kill it. I am not sure what the intentions of the OP ( some of you claimed that he wants to create a rift ), but this is definitely a valid concern for all the EB3(I) guys. This is a natural reaction to the frustrations of EB3(I) guys just like the mass upheaval during the July 2007 VB fiasco. Since it was across the board, there were no differences. Now since this involves only EB3(I), there is not much support from IV or others. But in my opinion, this is as much unfair as the Julay VB fiasco.
    Some of the EB2(I) guys are worried that their GC dreams would get delayed if there is any Admin fix for EB3(I). For all those individuals in EB2(I) who want to oppose any kind of admin fix for EB3(I), I just want you to think about it. Is it really fair? There are individuals in EB3(I) waiting since 2001 - a total of 8+ years. Don't get me wrong - but some of the EB2(I) guys who have applied as late as 2006 and 2007 are expecting/hoping to get their GC this year if there is a spillover. And I think these are the individuals ( not all of the EB2 guys though ) who are opposing any kind of admin fix ( please dont yell at me or curse me etc...if you are not one among those mentioned, then please dont worry..this is not about you::) Ofcourse i would like each one of us to get GC as soon as possible) to EB3(I).
    And I dont see why there will be a rift between EB2 and EB3 if each of us follows net etiquette in positng responses. Let's do some constuctive brainstoming - without getting into perosnal attacks or getting too emotional. Let's do what is right and not what each one of us thinks is right. Then I guess there wont be any rifts. The only thing I am asking is to get EB3(I) to advnace a little bit. I am not asking for it be on par with EB2(I). I hope some of you see a point in my frustration::))
    Do you really want EB2(I) to advance to 2005/2006 while EB3(I) guys are still languishing in 2001? That's totally unfair in my opinion. I know this world is not fair but how can anyone else try to divide us if we all stand united? And to stand united, EB2 guys should be willing to support any initiative to help EB3(I) move from stone ages::))
    Peace!
    ( I am getting ready with my body armour for all the brickbats various people are going to throw at me::))

    Regards

    I am completely with you. We should start brainstorming thread with no negative posts.





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  • sunny1000
    05-15 08:37 PM
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  • shx
    03-17 07:01 PM
    I'm ok with banning IP address. People can always go home and use IV, instead of wasting time at work.





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  • pappu
    04-10 11:54 PM
    Folks, IV is a platform to come and work on the common goal. Come join us and help out. Be an active volunteer and work on daily basis with us to solve the problem and make IV better. We need more real workers on the ground than strategy advisers, critics and Management consultants.

    Enough said. Actions will speak louder than words and you need to get involved to tell us your ideas. If you are interested to actively participate send us an email (info at immigrationvoice.org) with your valid email address with your name, phone number and what you would like to do to help IV. We will welcome your active participation and assign you leadership roles if you want.

    The thread is closed.



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  • waitnwatch
    04-03 12:58 PM
    As this issue has been going on for some time I decided to add my two cents for whatever it is worth.

    It is important not just to note the content of a posting but also its tone. People in this forum are smart enought to determine whether a posting contain constructive criticism or is just accusatory. I think it is better to leave the accusatory ones to die a natural death while replying to constructive posts even when they are heavily critical.

    Another thing to note is that everyone has their own peculiar situation. It may quite work out that only some issues may be solved by the legislation and it may not work to a person's advantage. Even then the people who are actively involved should make the call about what to pursue and what not to. The subtle nuances of the behind the scene politics is not visible to us sitting on the outside and I personally wouldn't like insider details aired on this public forum as this would provide the opposition with ammunition. I may be a bit conceited in thinking that discussions in this forum are being watched by the opposition but I am sure that that is happening.

    Meanwhile good luck to everybody and my sincere appreciation to the core IV volunteers who it appears have significant understanding of how the political game is being played.





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  • nixstor
    08-01 02:18 PM
    I am trying to underscore the point that "Smart kids doesnt necessarily need to get into IIT's, if they are US implants in India during their early teens or around 8th grade. There is a better chance that they will end up in Ivy leagues or what ever you consider equivalent of IIT's here"

    I concur with the opinion of getting into IIT's is not a bench mark for success. It depends on what a person considers success. As far as "Best among best" is concerned, I used it only to compare the number of seats available for equally intelligent students in India and US. A student in India with similar aptitude, IQ and what ever comparable metrics has lesser chances of accomplishing what a student accomplishes in the US. let it be getting into IIT's or Ivy leagues.

    HTH



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  • funny
    09-22 04:03 PM
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  • akela_topchi
    01-14 02:04 PM
    This is not for legal immigrants. It is clearly directed towards legalizing the illegals - who obviously would not leave US once they get a chance to enter.

    Economy is in trouble so immigration will be on back-burner.

    Still if Democrats chose to fix (really??) immigration, I think they would try to address concerns of Hispanic voters by legalize illegals and fixing family based immigration issues. This would help increase Hispanic votes, and support in 2010 elections. New Hispanic voters may make up for the non-Hispanic US votes they lose in the process.

    If they address just legal immigration, it will anger both Hispanics, non-Hispanics groups and their votes in 2010 elections. So it's not a possibility.

    Here are a **few equations that make it easier to understand. :) :)

    VB = W + A + H + O <--- 2008 Dem vote bank.
    (W: Whites, A: African American, H: Hispanics, O: Others. )

    VB1 = (W - ΔW1) + (A) + (H + ΔH1) + (O) <-- pro-illegal policies
    So Δ(vb1-vb) = ΔH1 - ΔW1 (it may give them some additional votes.)

    VB2 = (W - ΔW2) + (A) + (H - ΔH2) + (O) <-- pro-legal policies
    and Δ(vb2-vb) = - ΔH2 - ΔW2 (significant loss of white and Hispanic votes )

    Based on this - Dems can't afford to be seen as Pro-legal.

    ** These equations are described as "Great breakthrough in computational politics" - by rb_248. :) :)



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  • engineer
    02-28 07:06 PM
    This is the article my wife wrote for her class assignment. thought to share..

    Spouses and Dependents of Legal US Immigrants Should Be Granted Work Visas
    America is known to be the land of immigrants. Immigrants have been a part of American history. There is a lot of debate going on these days on the issue of illegal immigration in various social and political circles. But we also have a fairly large number of legal entrants in America who are officially documented residents. Spouses and dependents of many of these legal U.S. residents are not granted work visas, inherently. Instead they are issued H4 or dependent visas. H4 visa type allows dependents to stay in United States as long as their spouses are legally employed in any organization within the U.S., but they cannot obtain jobs as per the current labor laws. This is a sheer waste of talent for many who migrate to the land of opportunities with a desire to live the American dream. Not granting work permits to the spouses of H1-B work visa holders, makes them feel financially dependent and estranged. Many of these immigrant spouses are highly-qualified professionals with marketable skills but cannot obtain a job, by law, despite being in U.S. legally. By all fairness, dependent spouses should be granted work authorization for the sake of their social, economic and emotional well-being.
    According to the U.S Department of state, �The Immigration and Nationality Act provide several categories of nonimmigrant visas for a person who wishes to work temporarily in the United States. Some of these categories include H1-B (person in a specialty occupation), H2-A (temporary or seasonal agricultural workers), L (intra-company transferees), F-1 (students with demonstrated intent to return to home country upon completion of undertaken program) and Q-1 (participants in an international cultural exchange program) visas. With the exception of "Q-1 Cultural Exchange Visitors," a person who has received a visa as the spouse or child of a temporary worker may not accept employment, in the United States� ("Temporary Workers"). Dependents of non immigrant visa holders on H-4, F-2(spouses of student visa holders), and TD (spouses of citizens of Canada and Mexico), visas are directly affected by this law. According to a survey by NADISA (Network of Advocates of Dependent Spouses of America), �Most of these dependent spouses are immigrant women who do not have a penny to their name except by the grace of their husbands. These are some highly educated, well-experienced, motivated young women who are ready to support themselves, but cannot, by law, get a job despite being in the U.S. legally� (Shah).
    The inability to work in the U.S. on H-4 visa status creates a handicap for career minded women. It puts them at a disadvantage of losing several years of professional work experience. Mehreen Arshad, a graduate in commerce from Bangalore, India and an MBA degree holder from a top U.S. business school is one of the victims of this highly unfair labor law. She is on H-4 visa status for the past 8 years. She says, �This never-ending wait for getting work authorization has ruined my entire career. We are in process of getting Green Card (permanent residency status and work permit) for the past 8 years. Despite having an MBA from a U.S business school, I have been denied jobs several times because of my H4 status. Employers tend to prefer Green Card holders over dependent visa holders. Many organizations clearly state in their job ads that only citizens or green card holders can apply. This truly is a waste of talented workforce and expresses social inequality and discrimination towards legal immigrants.�
    With the rising costs of living, education and healthcare in America, not allowing the spouses of immigrants to work is practically like incapacitating them. Every member of the family needs to contribute to sustain financial stability. In a family where one person works and the rest are dependent on one source of income, it sometimes gets hard to make both the ends meet. Dependents of immigrant workers should be granted work visas or they atleast should be allowed to do temporary or seasonal jobs so that they can contribute towards family income to improve the standard of living.
    Dependent spouses often get the feeling of being financially controlled by their husbands. Since they are not the providers or bread winners for the family, dependent spouses are often kept out of the decision making process. They cannot make important decisions in life like buying property, starting a family or business because of the financial instability.
    In addition to the social and economic setbacks, spouses on H-4 often get the feeling of being alienated. Without work authorization, spouses feel that they are trapped in households and domestic life. Without getting a chance to work and ever being exposed to the local community, it becomes difficult for spouses to understand American culture and fit in well.
    Apart from obtaining work permits, dependent spouses are also not issued social security numbers and in many states they cannot even get a driver�s license. Due to all these restrictions, a lot of women on dependent spouse visa status become victims of abuse and domestic violence. �Without the ability to earn money independently from their abuser, battered dependent spouses are not financially secure to protest the abuse, leave the marriage if necessary, or even buy a ticket to return to their home country. Batterers use their financial control to keep victims submissive and often prevent them from staying in status or converting to another status. Without work authorization and the ability to determine their own futures once legally in our borders, many become vulnerable to domestic violence. Once victims, battered dependent spouses find they have no more protections than undocumented immigrants� (Shah).
    �In 2002, President Bush signed into law a bill which allows dependent spouses of L (intra-company transferees) and E-3 (citizens of Australia) work visa holders to obtain work authorization. No legislative reason is given for not extending this basic right to H-4 visa holders� (Shah). The current law prohibiting spouses to work on H4 status does not make sense to many because L and E work visas are exactly the same in nature as H-1B work visa, so it is hard to understand why spouses of H1-B work visa holders are still being restrained from obtaining jobs in United States?
    Anti-immigrants argue that there is a need to protect the U.S. labor market, so dependents of legal immigrants should not be allowed to work. But in case there is a demonstrated shortage of labor in any particular field of work and an individual meets the eligibility criteria, why should he or she be denied a job on the basis of visa status? There is a demonstrated shortage of workforce in professions like Teaching and Nursing in America. �In May 2005, the National Commission on Nursing Workforce for Long-Term Care released Act Now for Your Tomorrow report which found that there are nearly 100,000 vacant nursing positions in long-term care facilities on any given day�( Rosseter). According to National Education Association, �Not only are America's schools experiencing a shortage of teachers, the growth of ethnic and minority student enrollment is creating a critical need for minority teachers to provide positive role models for the students�("Great Teachers"). With the established need of workforce in teaching and nursing areas, dependent spouses meeting the eligibility criteria can be effectively employed in these professions.
    There is also a demonstrated shortage of skilled workers in Engineering and I.T related fields. Few days back Bill Gates, the chairman of Microsoft Corporation commented that there�s an insufficient amount of skilled people in the U.S. labor pool. "Gates argued that, "If the demand is there, why have the regulation at all?" In a statement, Mr. Gates was quoted as saying, "Anybody who's got good computer science training, they are not out there unemployed. We're just not seeing an available labor pool." He further added, "The whole idea of the H1B visa thing is, don't let too many smart people into the country". (Murthy) One way to get around this shortage of skilled workers could be granting work permits to the highly skilled I.T professionals who are already in the U.S. as the spouses of H-1B visa holders.
    In view of the above arguments it is imperative that these highly skilled legal immigrant spouses should be granted the right to work for their socio-economic welfare. Work authorization will not only provide financial independence to these women but will also give them the right to determine their own future in case they are trapped in abusive relationships. Also, these immigrant spouses can be prove to be incredibly resourceful in areas of work where there is already shortage of labor. This would indeed be a multifaceted beneficial pursuit, as not only it would support needs of the dependent spouses in terms of their financial well-being but at the end of the day, it is the national interest and economy enjoying the boost from further skilled input.





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  • slammer
    01-13 12:40 PM
    It's here guys :


    http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4417.html



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  • Macaca
    06-15 07:47 PM
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  • dixie
    07-22 01:22 PM
    You will never be as good!!!
    Life is different, if you are not a tourist. Try working with them day in day out. And I m talking about Toronto.

    Experiences of friends says - blue collar, jobs that Canadian do not want to do you, you are more than welcome.
    But dont ever try to get a White collar job... And if you want to - work as Software engineer - and forget of any career development....

    Again -
    http://www.notcanada.com
    http://www.canadaimmigrants.com

    My company has offices in both canada(toronto and vancouver) and US .. i have worked for extended periods of time in canada. I agree that career development opps are limited due to economic reasons, but there is no way toronto or vancouver is any more racist than atlanta or miami. Who said there is no discrimination against white collar workers in the US as well .. if not how do you explain so many people supporting illegal aliens, but nobody breathing a word about us ? Lets face it , the corporates here need us but many native born white collar workers actively hate us. Thats how you have so much opposition to H1-B and EB visas from the likes of programmer's guild and other labor unions.



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  • chanduv23
    10-03 11:50 AM
    I will be in NY that Friday for a meeting. I am not sure if my flights are booked for Friday evening or Saturday. If I can I will definitely make it!:)

    Wonderful - if you can make it - we will see u here :)





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  • dagabaaj
    01-23 11:13 AM
    The discussion is what we should do to act on these issues. IV core has been (I assume) assembling data for some time now to have valid numbers for some action items. Let's get on with the action items now and see where they take us. If that is deemed unsuccessful then we go for the next. We keep trying. That should be the motto. My 2 cents.



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  • Administrator2
    02-28 12:10 AM
    I know you never said that. but your recent comments seem to imply that.
    I am guessing that either you are IV core or very close to it.
    so can I just ask ... is IV planning any campaigns at all in the near future (i.e. in the next 2-3 months) ?

    albertpinto,

    At this time we have request for interview from over 7 highly reputable media outlets including NPR Marketplace, NY Times, LA Times, AP. We have asked members to interview if they feel anxious about the current state of the affairs. Can you guess how may responses we have recd till now? Is this not part of the effort/campaign? There are few members who will spend whole day discussing sending pizza or fight over tracker data. But we struggle to find sincere members who are ready to interview with the top media outlets. This indicates to us, either everybody is extremely comfortable with wherever we are and no one is feeling the pain, or just 2-3 of us feel the anxiety due the economic slow-down. If over 30 members can discuss for a period of 3-4 days about sending pizza, and the objective is to attract attention for our provisions, then is it not possible to achieve the same with the available media opportunities. Getting media opportunities is a difficult job. And its extremely frustrating to see lukewarm response to the action items and request for help from the members. Please understand that there are many aspects of our advocacy effort. We may be focusing on a specific aspect at a particular time, and its possible that you want us to work on something else. It doesn't mean that we are not working on a specific campaign right now. So I am baffled by your question of doing a campaign in next 2-3 months.

    It is possible that next month we may see new bill from Sen. Grassley and we may have to re-adjust our effort to respond to such a bill. Political events are not predictable, but we have to respond to every developing situation. We are always very sincere in the community effort, so I request to please support the effort, even if you do not agree with it 100%. And please participate in the action items, because they are always part of planned activity and is not an abrupt absurd idea.

    Campaigns are not based on a specific provisions, even when everyone of us sees it in that light. Provisions are the end product of every campaign. But to achieve our provisions, there is a long drawn process, which includes multiple stages. I am not able to list all the stages in a single post. But I will encourage you to see this document -

    http://immigrationvoice.org/media/HowTo_Guide_MeetLawmakers.doc





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  • GC_Geek
    09-12 12:40 PM
    It is a personal choice plus the level of risk you take, I bought my house before my GC was approved and here I am now. Setting aside GC concern, the only problem you might face is securing a loan with good rate, all lowest rate that you notice in internet banner or Bank flyer is not applicable to you, simple reason H1b Visa is considered as temporary Visa, once your loan application is taken by a banker, one of the question in loan app. pertain to Citizenship, if you're US citizen or GC holder then chances of getting loan with lower rate is higher(though many factors contribute to lower rate and loan approval), but if a person on H1B visa approach for a home loan, then Under writers perceive you as high risk borrower, some bank may deny loan if you claim as H1B visa holder, but some banks will approve loan but on higher rate.

    In my case I was on EAD when my loan was approved, it was a hell lot of problem in convincing UW to approve loan, I approached my lawyer to get a letter stating that a person on EAD is one step closer to GC to get final approval, still I ended up taking 0.25 % more rate.

    Good Luck

    HTH

    kris

    I really liked your sensible answer, useful for me too...
    I am guessing that the original poster of this poll is looking for some answers/opinions/advises like this.
    Thanks Kris,





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  • hsingh82
    10-02 12:22 PM
    In 2005 my first kid got an OCI as the rules were diiferent then but in 2009 the current rule is that one parent MUST be a US citizen and I had to take a PIO for my second kid in 2009.


    Following is from the FAQ`s of Indian consulate at SFO

    6. Are minor children whose both parents are Indian citizens eligible for OCI?
    No.


    You are correct. The rules must have changed recently. I wonder what made them make that change, Now children of US citizens (who were once Indian citizens) have an advantage over children who has both parents as Indian citizens. Weird.. isn't it?





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    Maverick_2008
    05-02 09:03 PM
    Buddy, your tone sounds hostile and as I said we're staying here by choice - but let me tell you this, after getting an MBA (with financial aid) from a decent school here, staying here for a decade, getting into upper management of a large company and having US born kids, I'm relocating to India after the summer. I've just secured admission for my first born from here and it went without a single glitch.

    So, YES, I've tried it, I'm pretty darn willing to and I got a strong pair of balls!

    Maverick_2008


    have you tried any of this? or are you willing to!?



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